Comments on: Get Up, Stand Up http://www.raptitude.com/2009/04/get-up-stand-up/ The gentle art of sanity amidst civilization Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:34:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Rogerscottq http://www.raptitude.com/2009/04/get-up-stand-up/#comment-5872 Rogerscottq Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:27:39 +0000 http://www.raptitude.com/?p=829#comment-5872 Look homeward, Angel, because your problems are gone with the wind. If you continue to have problems, leave it to beaver to gnaw the cords of bondage or trust in 12 angry men. Either way, don't worry: be happy! Look homeward, Angel, because your problems
are gone with the wind. If you continue to
have problems, leave it to beaver to gnaw
the cords of bondage or trust in 12 angry
men.

Either way, don’t worry: be happy!

]]> By: Mike D http://www.raptitude.com/2009/04/get-up-stand-up/#comment-5849 Mike D Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:48:46 +0000 http://www.raptitude.com/?p=829#comment-5849 Thanks for suggesting I read this Dave. Good job! I totally agree that it's absolutely stupid that you can pretty much get sued by accident these days and that copyright laws seem to have gotten a little out of hand. It's just a phrase, after all. Brand names I can understand, media I can understand, but a phrase is a little ridiculous. If it's use is somehow meant to earn a profit, then fine put the (R) in there but otherwise leave the poor guy alone! Thanks for suggesting I read this Dave. Good job! I totally agree that it’s absolutely stupid that you can pretty much get sued by accident these days and that copyright laws seem to have gotten a little out of hand. It’s just a phrase, after all. Brand names I can understand, media I can understand, but a phrase is a little ridiculous. If it’s use is somehow meant to earn a profit, then fine put the (R) in there but otherwise leave the poor guy alone!

]]> By: Roger http://www.raptitude.com/2009/04/get-up-stand-up/#comment-2224 Roger Sat, 02 May 2009 01:59:31 +0000 http://www.raptitude.com/?p=829#comment-2224 That's right. And the only issue about copyright is provenance. If anyone used a phrase at any time in prior history and that can be demonstrated by production of provable print, that makes claim void. We are a 'cut and paste' generation, and the idea about 'modules' of phrase or even individual letters rather settles the matter once and for all until some board or panel with the force of law can determine: only this many words in sequence can be used to determine 'unique' phraseology worthy of patent or 'copyright'. Who owns the copyright for 'In the beginning'? Or: "Once upon a time"? Parsing issues and editorial deliberation over potential lawsuit over 'proprietariness' concerning even 'genius' writing has probably shut the world out of many great 'pastiches' or 'editings' of prior works into better forms. Many scholars have argued that Bach was simply a 're-writer' of priors. Same with Shakespeare (or choose your 'actual writer(s)' of the sonnets and plays). How many paintings of the Annunciation existed before a Da Vinci made yet another? Squeeky wheel gets the oil, and palms get oiled and, maybe, the original artist: not known at all. <P That’s right. And the only issue about
copyright is provenance. If anyone used a
phrase at any time in prior history and that
can be demonstrated by production of provable
print, that makes claim void.

We are a ‘cut and paste’ generation,
and the idea about ‘modules’ of phrase or
even individual letters rather settles the
matter once and for all until some board or
panel with the force of law can determine:
only this many words in sequence can be
used to determine ‘unique’ phraseology
worthy of patent or ‘copyright’.

Who owns the copyright for ‘In the beginning’?
Or: “Once upon a time”?

Parsing issues and editorial deliberation over
potential lawsuit over ‘proprietariness’
concerning even ‘genius’ writing has probably
shut the world out of many great ‘pastiches’
or ‘editings’ of prior works into better
forms.

Many scholars have argued that Bach
was simply a ‘re-writer’ of priors. Same
with Shakespeare (or choose your ‘actual
writer(s)’ of the sonnets and plays).

How many paintings of the Annunciation
existed before a Da Vinci made yet another?

Squeeky wheel gets the oil, and palms
get oiled and, maybe, the original artist:
not known at all.

<P

]]> By: David http://www.raptitude.com/2009/04/get-up-stand-up/#comment-2220 David Sat, 02 May 2009 00:58:01 +0000 http://www.raptitude.com/?p=829#comment-2220 Haha... I'm happy to give Susan Jeffers™ free advertising. It doesn't cost me a thing. Thanks for your comments Roger! Haha… I’m happy to give Susan Jeffers™ free advertising. It doesn’t cost me a thing.

Thanks for your comments Roger!

]]> By: Roger http://www.raptitude.com/2009/04/get-up-stand-up/#comment-2218 Roger Sat, 02 May 2009 00:41:56 +0000 http://www.raptitude.com/?p=829#comment-2218 Sorry, attempt at humor maybe lost since the trademark symbol seemed to drop out. And I don't actually think you are friends with Jeffers. Keep writing with abandon, since it's obvious you write from the gut and are above suborning. Sorry, attempt at humor maybe lost since the
trademark symbol seemed to drop out. And I
don’t actually think you are friends with
Jeffers. Keep writing with abandon, since
it’s obvious you write from the gut and
are above suborning.

]]> By: Roger http://www.raptitude.com/2009/04/get-up-stand-up/#comment-2217 Roger Sat, 02 May 2009 00:38:04 +0000 http://www.raptitude.com/?p=829#comment-2217 Are© you© friends© with© Jeffers©? 'cause© I© cannot thinkâ„¢ of a betterâ„¢ advertâ„¢ for her than this postâ„¢. Why kick against the pricks? (sorry, but that phrase is way beyond any copyright or trademark limitations). Are© you© friends© with© Jeffers©?

’cause© I© cannot thinkâ„¢ of a
betterâ„¢ advertâ„¢ for her than this postâ„¢.

Why kick against the pricks? (sorry, but that
phrase is way beyond any copyright or
trademark limitations).

]]> By: David http://www.raptitude.com/2009/04/get-up-stand-up/#comment-2184 David Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:36:49 +0000 http://www.raptitude.com/?p=829#comment-2184 I think I'll just continue to post with abandon and see what happens :) I think I’ll just continue to post with abandon and see what happens :)

]]> By: angelene http://www.raptitude.com/2009/04/get-up-stand-up/#comment-2182 angelene Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.raptitude.com/?p=829#comment-2182 the world is a scary place sometimes. it's easy to forget and to feel "free" when i'm posting (with abandon) what my sexual nationality is all over facebook or really getting into it on some forum somewhere. and then...BAM! things like this happen. i'd say that most of us are pretty conscientious (i.e. giving credit where credit is due) and there is a nice sense of community amongst bloggers, but because of the world we live in, the governments we elect, and the value placed on ownership and quantity, it's not surprising that this happens. i'm sure a lot of people would be scared by the threat of legal action and erase their post immediately. and that sucks because they don't have to. there is a lot of good information out there on the subject, read up, follow up, and get your word out there! the world is a scary place sometimes. it’s easy to forget and to feel “free” when i’m posting (with abandon) what my sexual nationality is all over facebook or really getting into it on some forum somewhere. and then…BAM! things like this happen. i’d say that most of us are pretty conscientious (i.e. giving credit where credit is due) and there is a nice sense of community amongst bloggers, but because of the world we live in, the governments we elect, and the value placed on ownership and quantity, it’s not surprising that this happens. i’m sure a lot of people would be scared by the threat of legal action and erase their post immediately. and that sucks because they don’t have to. there is a lot of good information out there on the subject, read up, follow up, and get your word out there!

]]> By: David http://www.raptitude.com/2009/04/get-up-stand-up/#comment-2181 David Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:16:46 +0000 http://www.raptitude.com/?p=829#comment-2181 Hey Dhiresh, thanks for adding your thoughts. I suspect I have lots of readers who have never posted a comment. It amazes me to think that I have have many loyal readers whose names I will never know. I'd love to hear from you all :) I see your first blog post was today too. Welcome to the blogging world, Dhiresh. Hey Dhiresh, thanks for adding your thoughts. I suspect I have lots of readers who have never posted a comment. It amazes me to think that I have have many loyal readers whose names I will never know. I’d love to hear from you all :)

I see your first blog post was today too. Welcome to the blogging world, Dhiresh.

]]> By: Dhiresh http://www.raptitude.com/2009/04/get-up-stand-up/#comment-2180 Dhiresh Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:07:15 +0000 http://www.raptitude.com/?p=829#comment-2180 Hi David It's interesting how the whole world is wondering why our financial system collapsed, but the answer is right in front of them... We all try to add value to the world in one way or another, yet some seem to take more than they give, or in many cases take at the expense of others. Still nevermind, those who are so worried about another person expressing themself (because they might feel less special :s) won't experience any form of abundance until they learn a lesson- when one needlessly attacks another, one needlessly attacks oneself. (hopefully that's original, but in the event that it isn't, oh well). Thanks for sharing your views, I read your blog everyday Dhiresh Hi David

It’s interesting how the whole world is wondering why our financial system collapsed, but the answer is right in front of them…

We all try to add value to the world in one way or another, yet some seem to take more than they give, or in many cases take at the expense of others.

Still nevermind, those who are so worried about another person expressing themself (because they might feel less special :s) won’t experience any form of abundance until they learn a lesson- when one needlessly attacks another, one needlessly attacks oneself. (hopefully that’s original, but in the event that it isn’t, oh well).

Thanks for sharing your views, I read your blog everyday

Dhiresh

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